Revolver Sits Down With M Shadows.
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Make sure you pick up the Dec 21st issue of Revolver Magazine because it will feature two brand new interviews with M Shadows.
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Comment by ty November 29, 2010 @ 8:57 amNew drummer, and i think i know who it will be… if it isn’t stupidly obvious!
Comment by Jake November 29, 2010 @ 8:58 amIt’s gotta be tha M Shads is taking over drums and Johny Christ is gonna be singer.
Comment by Kane November 29, 2010 @ 2:04 pmof course! why didnt i see it before! and theyre bringing in corey taylor to be a 2nd vocalist since they seem to love him so much lmao
Comment by Ryan November 29, 2010 @ 2:37 pmAnd fucking J.B. Diz on the tambourine!!
Comment by Sarah November 30, 2010 @ 4:06 pmhopefully it’s good news…
Comment by Ka7x November 29, 2010 @ 8:58 amPortnoy is joining?
Comment by Ben November 29, 2010 @ 9:00 amis it possible to get this in england? :/
Comment by H November 29, 2010 @ 9:01 amIt’ll probably be posted on this site anyway
Comment by Sam November 29, 2010 @ 9:32 amTrue, thanks ;)
Comment by H November 29, 2010 @ 9:55 amI don’t know, not in Holland anyway
Comment by lean99zz November 29, 2010 @ 10:14 amrevolver mag is distributed world wide :D
Comment by Alive November 29, 2010 @ 11:28 amwith the big news thing, the first thing that came into my head was mike being the permanent drummer
Comment by Anonymous November 29, 2010 @ 9:02 ambut who knows im excited now lol
Thats what i thought too ;)
Comment by H November 29, 2010 @ 9:16 amI think that might be it. Portnoy did post a questionable tweet about he’s not allowed to post details.
Comment by Drivillian November 29, 2010 @ 10:40 amhe was referring to him not being able to say where they are in the middle east, regarding their safety.
Comment by Anonymous November 29, 2010 @ 1:50 pmThat was in regards to their being over in Iraq. They’re not allowed to give out their current location for safety reasons.
Comment by deathbatnews November 29, 2010 @ 8:31 pmCan’t wait! <3
Comment by Atrum November 29, 2010 @ 9:04 amdun dun duhhhh!
Comment by Julia November 29, 2010 @ 9:07 amYeah, the first thing that came to mind was Mike going to be their permanent drummer lol
Comment by Jenny November 29, 2010 @ 9:13 amWhat about them releasing a new song? Possibly big news but i don’t know
Comment by Alex November 29, 2010 @ 9:14 amOh yeah that’s right they did have one song they said they would release later or it both portnoy as there new drummer and a new song
Comment by Chris November 29, 2010 @ 1:47 pmYeah, i have been wondering about that other song.
Comment by Derek Williams November 29, 2010 @ 4:28 pmI reckon its to early for that, maybe Mike Portnoy being permanent and they started making a video for Welcome to the family?
Comment by Will0240 A7X forREVer November 29, 2010 @ 5:10 pmI don’t know if I will be able to wait that long! CRAP!
Comment by J7x88 November 29, 2010 @ 9:18 amI hope the big the news is that they’re gonna continue as a band and make a another album. Or maybe they’re announcing the european tour dates for the summer. Who knows. You can get Revolver in Finland so you probably can get it in the UK too.
Comment by t November 29, 2010 @ 9:19 amNo offense, but I don’t think they would say it has big news about A7X if it was just tour dates. It’s really big if they said that.
Comment by Drivillian November 29, 2010 @ 10:25 amI’m wondering if it will be about the future of the band, too.
After all… they are signing up to more and more things.
I believe it could be that they are continuing…and that to do that Mike will be joining.
However, I’m trying not to get too excited to avoid disappointment.
Comment by Sarah November 29, 2010 @ 2:55 pmI hope it’s that Mike’s staying. If it’s not that, then I have no idea…
Comment by Beck November 29, 2010 @ 9:21 amOoooh, whats the news?! I don’t think you can get it in Scotland/UK :'(
Comment by Amanda :D! November 29, 2010 @ 9:25 amI’m in Scotland too, but sometimes they sell it on eBay :)
Comment by EmilyVengeance November 29, 2010 @ 11:23 amI really need to start subscribing to Revolver, but if I subscribe now, would I get this issue sent to me or would I still have to go and buy it? bah, I’ll subscribe and see what happens, lol, Revolver seems to be one of the best for including Avenged, I honestly don’t remember seeing anything about them in AP since Jimmy passed.
Comment by Elin November 29, 2010 @ 9:26 amI subscribed a few weeks ago, and I can’t remember what it said about when the first issue would come. I think it was 4-6 weeks; that’s what it seems to be for most magazines. I hope you and I both get it delivered to us!
Comment by Rachel November 29, 2010 @ 12:53 pmAccording to Revolver’s FAQ’s:
If this is your first time subscribing to Revolver magazine, your first issue is shipped via U.S. Mail at the standard rate and can take up to eight to 10 weeks for delivery depending on the next issue release date and the date you subscribed.
Comment by Rachel November 29, 2010 @ 1:26 pmOhhh mannnn i hope it’s good news!!
Comment by Angst November 29, 2010 @ 9:37 amfunny how we’re all thinking the same thing :)
Comment by Bianca November 29, 2010 @ 9:40 amI hope someone will scan it since i wont be able to get it here in germany :(
Can’t get Revolver in my country so I hope you can tell us what the big news is :)
Comment by Katty November 29, 2010 @ 9:48 amWell i hope its only good news
Comment by Joel Paz November 29, 2010 @ 9:59 amIs that the one with the big poster??
Comment by lean99zz November 29, 2010 @ 9:59 amno that was Kerrang! which was released last Wednesday.
Comment by Angst November 29, 2010 @ 1:01 pmThe big poster should be in the latest Kerrang Magazine, i think!
Comment by Anonymous November 29, 2010 @ 1:40 pmHmmm……
Comment by ashleigh November 29, 2010 @ 10:15 amhopefully it’s Portnoy.. but then again it could be the complete opposite.
Comment by Drivillian November 29, 2010 @ 10:22 amMaybe it can be the future of the band, like if they will change the name or if they will continue being avenged sevenfold?
Comment by RuiA7X November 29, 2010 @ 10:23 amI think they’ll always remain avenged sevenfold.. :D
Comment by Jessica November 29, 2010 @ 1:16 pmband or no band! :D
heres what i think it might be
Good News- Mike joining avenged sevenfold officially :)or confirming they are going to make more albums
Bad News- They end the band like matt said lay the name to bed and start something new because jimmy was a big part of avenged sevenfold :(
Comment by Anonymous November 29, 2010 @ 10:32 amWhere did you see that at? :)
Comment by Jessica November 29, 2010 @ 1:17 pmif you watch some of the earlier interviews before nightmare was released matt mentioned it a few times
Here is one of them
Comment by Anonymous November 29, 2010 @ 2:06 pmskip to 3:39
what he said was that: “IF they can’t put out new good stuff then lay the name to bed” not necessarily that they would..
Comment by diego November 29, 2010 @ 5:04 pmWasn’t that just speculation?
Comment by Rachel November 29, 2010 @ 2:20 pmthat’s what i thought
Comment by A November 29, 2010 @ 8:53 pmim not sure but thats just what i think could be worst case scenario if its bad news i think its most likely mike joining avenged permanently and maybe starting to work on a video for welcome to the family
Comment by Anonymous November 30, 2010 @ 1:33 pmI really hope its good news!!!!!!!
Comment by Will0240 A7X forREVer November 29, 2010 @ 10:34 amI swear if they break up I will cry!! ='( But can’t wait to read the interviews with M.Shadows.
Comment by Kell November 29, 2010 @ 10:36 amIs DBN Privy to this information? :)
Comment by Lindseyy:) November 29, 2010 @ 10:41 amHahaa
But i’m nervous about the news..
What if its bad. :'(
I think it would be good news, because I don’t think they would say “big A7X news” and get our hopes up about portnoy only to say they’re breaking up or something..
Comment by Lindseyy:) November 29, 2010 @ 10:43 amORrr It could be the two interviews to explain stuff..
I don’t know.
Gosh.
I hope the news confirms my suspicion that Syn has been learning Spanish in order to take over the position as a7x’s lead vocalist and transforming the band into a Latin American pop group. One can only hope.
Comment by Zack November 29, 2010 @ 10:50 amLmfao this was random, but a funny idea ;)
Comment by Andi iRock November 29, 2010 @ 12:21 pm:D
Comment by Jessica November 29, 2010 @ 1:16 pmLMAO
“Vengado 7 Veces”
Comment by Loghen November 29, 2010 @ 2:50 pmThat must obviously be it.
Comment by Alejandra November 29, 2010 @ 4:08 pmIt’s probably about them releasing that other non album track that never made it to the album.
Comment by Anonymous November 29, 2010 @ 11:34 amThat was released a long time ago.
Comment by Josh November 29, 2010 @ 12:10 pmThere were 13 songs recorded for Nightmare; 11 made it onto the album, Lost It All was the twelve, and there is one that remains unreleased…
Comment by Mike November 29, 2010 @ 12:46 pmNo they had a nother song that wasn’t lost it all
Comment by Chris November 29, 2010 @ 1:50 pmI agree with u.
Comment by Anonymous November 29, 2010 @ 12:15 pmNot really, he was talking about ‘Dirty Pop’ not ‘Lost it All’.
Comment by Gunslinger November 29, 2010 @ 12:49 pmA7X recorded 13 songs, and released only 12.
What??? Dirty Pop??
Comment by Alikz November 29, 2010 @ 5:52 pm“Dirty Pop” was never confirmed as the other non-album track that he was talking about.
Comment by Joshua November 29, 2010 @ 5:53 pmI haven’t found anything about this song called “Dirty Pop.” Here we go again with the fake songs, just like “Unwind the Chainsaw”….
Comment by Alikz November 29, 2010 @ 6:09 pm“Dirty Pop” isnt really a ‘fake’ song. It’s listed on the track list and you can see that if you purchase the deluxe edition of “Nightmare” on iTunes. It could have been a throw-away song which would now just be a b-side but they’ve never actually said that it was the second non-album bonus track.
“Unwind The Chainsaw” however was completely fake.
Comment by deathbatnews November 29, 2010 @ 6:13 pmwasn’t “The Harvester” also a song on that list? that would make it two songs…but maybe they didn’t record both of them
Comment by a7xfreakdrummer November 29, 2010 @ 6:28 pmYep, it sure was. In these sort of instances some of the titles could have been switched to what they are now or were basically thrown off the album and into the “b-side” pile. Who knows though, guess we’ll find out when/if they ever decide to release it.
Comment by deathbatnews November 29, 2010 @ 6:34 pmOrigionally, thats what I thought as well.. which would be amazing!! But, it’s probably an announcment that Mike Portnoy has officially joined Avenged Sevenfold in a more permanent manner.
Comment by Anonymous November 29, 2010 @ 12:28 pmGood news,Good news, I hope :}
Comment by Sian November 29, 2010 @ 11:42 amAhh! It’s so far away! *runs in circles* I can’t handle the suspense >.<
Comment by Harley Quinn November 29, 2010 @ 12:15 pmCan’t get it in my country as well…
Comment by Rachel November 29, 2010 @ 12:19 pmIf it is good news, it definetly isn’t they breaking up.
I hope it is the release of a new song or the confirmation that Mike will be the permanent drummer!
dbn lady what do you think the news is? new drummer? or maybe they drop the name a7x and start fresh with a new name?
Comment by zachrabit November 29, 2010 @ 12:19 pmI’ll be so excited if Mike is joining the group and they are making a new album. That would be such a happy announcement. Little M Shadows and Syn babies running around would be happy news too.
Comment by Tracey7777 November 29, 2010 @ 12:27 pmReally? I think it’d be weird if they had kids. xD Definitely something I’d have to get used to, anyway.
Comment by Rachel November 29, 2010 @ 2:26 pmyeah theyre brother in laws too
Comment by Anonymous November 29, 2010 @ 4:21 pmHaha! I didn’t realize that til you mentioned it. That’s kinda funny lol.
Comment by Jessica November 29, 2010 @ 5:37 pmI wouldn’t be suprised, honestly. What I find funny is that their eventual kids will be cousins to each other! XD
Comment by Alyssa November 29, 2010 @ 4:47 pmif they have kids. a couple of them have stated they dont want to
Comment by Anonymous November 30, 2010 @ 5:14 amWhere did you read that? I don’t remember any of the guys saying that they did/didn’t want to have kids…
Comment by Alyssa November 30, 2010 @ 12:10 pmjimmy for sure said he didn’t and that is why he waited 4 years to get married and at least one of them also were not interested
Comment by Anonymous November 30, 2010 @ 1:33 pmUmmm…Jimmy was never married. He didn’t believe in marriage. Get your facts straight first.
Comment by Alyssa November 30, 2010 @ 3:50 pmA7X is not breaking up, Mike is joining as permanent drummer, their going to start work on another album as soon as the current tour is over and they have decided to do all the festivals in England they can next year and they have personally invited me to all of them as their tea girl and personal slave. in my la la land this is how it shall be. mxx
Comment by michelle Armstrong November 29, 2010 @ 12:27 pmi just hope that they are playing rock on the range this year…..
Comment by ktdlovesa7x November 29, 2010 @ 12:58 pmcant wait to see what the big news is, but i dont want to be too excited over it or it will feel like the countdown to july 27 all over again :/ also *cough*its my birthday*cough*
Comment by deen November 29, 2010 @ 1:06 pmI’m guessing they’re announcing Portnoy as the new drummer. Not sure what else would constitute as “big” news.
Comment by A7XEric November 29, 2010 @ 1:06 pmi can’t wait..gonna have to get this:D..i’m gonna keep wondering and wondering what that news is until the mag comes out.lol.i hope it gets to where i am sometimes it takes forever to get here.
Comment by amy November 29, 2010 @ 1:14 pmis that the hottest chicks in rock issue or a different one?
Comment by Kali November 29, 2010 @ 1:15 pmIt’s a different one.
Comment by Rachel November 29, 2010 @ 2:31 pmthe fact is everyone can speculate all you want but there is no way of knowing for sure until december 21st.
Comment by Tich \m/ November 29, 2010 @ 1:18 pmgahh, I wanna know! this is torture :/
Comment by francyA7X November 29, 2010 @ 1:19 pmAwww, but I wanna know now! Haha, I don’t think I will be able to wait until December 21st!
Comment by Alyssa November 29, 2010 @ 1:35 pmDear Avenged Sevenfold,
Comment by Aimee November 29, 2010 @ 1:37 pmMike Portnoy better be the new drummer! That’s all I have to say…
they will be starting a sigmound Freud tribute band called sigmound Freud does his own mother. they will be playing classic sigmound Freud tunes. trust me guys m shadows told me it in one of my dreams
Comment by jordan November 29, 2010 @ 1:51 pmI just needed to say that this comment just made my day! haha!
Comment by Amelia November 29, 2010 @ 2:51 pmYeah best comment ever! Haha.
Comment by eclecticmuso November 29, 2010 @ 3:32 pmeither mike is joining permanently and they decided to continue and make records, they got the nominations for grammys or theyre releasing that one song they said didnt make it on the album
Comment by Kyle November 29, 2010 @ 1:53 pmAll three would be sickkk but im really hoping for the first ! :)
The nominations will be announced this wednesday. :)
Comment by Alyssa November 29, 2010 @ 2:10 pmi know what the news are ! thihihi * evilcrazy eye look*
Comment by mia November 29, 2010 @ 1:54 pmAlright!!! The news comes on my b-day!! Yes! Crossing my fingers for Mike to be in the band for sure. Or renaming it Sigmound Freud Does His Own Mother would be pretty sweet too.
Comment by Rocky November 29, 2010 @ 2:06 pmand they write an album full of classic sigmund freud tunes =)
Comment by matt c November 29, 2010 @ 4:07 pmDream announcement: Portnoy joins a7x and they start making an album and M Shadows will scream in it and it will be as awesome as WTF and StST combined.
Comment by Kane November 29, 2010 @ 2:10 pmthose are their worst 2 albums. City of evil wasn’t too special either, since most of the songs were written in D. Self titled was easily their best. Nightmare is damn good though.
Just cause he screams, that doesnt make it good music. In fact, STST was very sloppy and shitty.
Comment by ty November 29, 2010 @ 3:01 pmLOL… Waking the fallen is their second best album and City of Evil is their best album. Self titled is not their best… it has one or two good songs on their while WTF and COE have one or two bad songs.
Comment by Matt November 29, 2010 @ 3:45 pmANYONE who listens to City of Evil show realize that, especially within the 2nd half of that album, A7X are at their most complex and musical best. The songs are dense, layered, progressive, and they connect really well, and are also musically complex and full of harmony and well thought out content. Waking the Fallen is also a truly great album, and it was all about painting moods and diving deep into emotions. That album was full of music and full of sadness and hopelessness, which was portrayed through the music, especially on a song like And All Things Will End, which hardly ever gets mentioned. Avenged Sevenfold are one of the few bands who can write in the same key and still write purely original music. That’s my two cents.
Comment by Anonymous November 29, 2010 @ 3:48 pmWhich album is best is down to personal opinion, don’t try to convince other people of which was the best. Please…:)
Incidentally, I think WTF is pretty good, Nightmare is my favourite, though.
I’m excited, but I’m not going to dare speculate.
Four days til Christmas, though…better be a good early Christmas present.
Comment by Marly November 29, 2010 @ 4:05 pmYep I agree
Comment by Angst November 29, 2010 @ 11:35 pmIf you look past the sloppyness and everything, you should realize that STST is actually a really good album, I wouldn’t call it their best, but I’d easily say that they’ve never released a “bad” album.
Comment by Anonymous November 29, 2010 @ 5:18 pmBut the fact is, is that it is sloppy. And WTF and STST riffs are straight forward, and M. Shadows voice is still not the greatest. Self titled is so unique. No other band will come out with an alum as great as that. That album truly shows all their influences, and how great of musicians they are.
Comment by ty November 29, 2010 @ 6:50 pm-_-‘ So does Nightmare. I personally think Nightmare is their best effort.
And I have to say other bands have released albums that are greater than the self-titled album…
I became a fan on the S/T album, though, so I have a soft spot for it.
I appreciate STST and WTF, though. WTF more.
Comment by Marly November 30, 2010 @ 5:33 amthevye always got better with every album. thats why we’re here.
Comment by eh7x November 30, 2010 @ 11:01 pmDream announcement: Jimmy’s not actually dead and he’s just in the woods, and he’ll be returning in 10 years as the knife master
Comment by Jon November 29, 2010 @ 5:24 pm:D
Nothing more to say…
Comment by SS November 29, 2010 @ 6:03 pmthis comment made me smile. won’t we all wish this were true.
Comment by eternitys_charm November 30, 2010 @ 9:45 amI almost wish this hadn’t been posted until a week before the issue came out so we all wouldn’t have to anxiously anticipate what the news will be lol.
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Pingback by Top Posts — WordPress.com November 29, 2010 @ 4:13 pmHeres my guess on what the big news will be:
Comment by Matteo November 29, 2010 @ 4:31 pmI think that for The one year anniversary of Jimmys death, Avenged Sevenfold is going to release Fiction as the new single with his original demo recorded included. I think a music video for fiction will follow including all the memories the band had with jimmy and had recorded on video similar to that video they released earlier this year after jimmy died. Then of course they might release Welcome to the Family new music video including the new 13th unreleased song as a b-side. I have a feelingthat this new music video for Welcome to the Family will be a live video where they include the parts that Mike is honored and this will conclude that their final decision is that mike portnoy is the new official drummer of Avenged Sevenfold! It would be not only a good idea but fuckin awesome as well. Wbo agrees?
A music video is also a good guess. Surely they won’t just make on video for this album.
Comment by Rdog November 29, 2010 @ 5:01 pmI don’t think it will be fiction as a single. I feel their intention was to just release that song on the album and then just leave it as jimmy’s “last performance” if you will, and not play it live or make a video for it or anything
Comment by Scott November 29, 2010 @ 6:16 pmlive in the LBC walk cover matteo? or just a matteo?
Comment by deen November 30, 2010 @ 4:44 amHaha nooo!! But i wishhh!!!!!!!! Lmfao! That would be awesome. But nope just a matteo. Ahah
Comment by Matteo November 30, 2010 @ 3:22 pmMatteo – that would rock!
Comment by greg November 29, 2010 @ 4:57 pmI LOLed
Comment by Anonymous November 29, 2010 @ 5:19 pmI knoww!!!! It would be awesome!
Comment by Matteo November 30, 2010 @ 3:25 pmIm actually scared about finding out what the “big news” is. What if they break up?? That would fucking suck!! That would be like the worst thing EVER! Ive been a fan since I was like 6 or 7!!! I mean..I guess im sounding selfish cuz what evers best for them is best. But it would still suck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by Brianna November 29, 2010 @ 5:03 pmDon’t worry, I feel the same way
Comment by Loghen November 29, 2010 @ 5:37 pmHowever, I don’t think that’s what the big news will be.
They wouldn’t say it that way to get people excited and then say ”Here’s the news you’ve all been waiting for… AVENGED SEVENFOLD IS OVER :D”
That would be kinda cruel if you ask me, lol
I agree with everything you said and it’d be especially cruel so close to Christmas…
Comment by SS November 29, 2010 @ 6:05 pmi dont think they would break up because they still have more tour dates and they wouldnt just say its over during the tour
Comment by Anonymous November 29, 2010 @ 6:31 pmif that is the news ill probably cry
Comment by A November 29, 2010 @ 9:19 pmWhat if it’s that book Matt and the band talked making about the revs drumming and memories
Comment by Chris November 29, 2010 @ 5:20 pmI could be a NEW LIVE DVD I ment to put that on my last post
Comment by Chris November 29, 2010 @ 5:28 pmThat would be awesome! Either from uproar or nightmare after Christmas. Fucking EPIC!
Comment by syn's_revenge November 29, 2010 @ 6:21 pmcant wait to read it!
Comment by emilyA7X November 29, 2010 @ 5:41 pmim kinda scared though!
That would be acutely supreme if Mike Portnoy was anointed the role as the prime Avenged Sevenfold Drummer!!
One can only prospect.
Comment by The Most Interesting Man In The World November 29, 2010 @ 5:49 pmLet’s just hope that whatever the news is it’s good news.
Comment by syn's_revenge November 29, 2010 @ 6:19 pmIt would also be so cool if they but ALL the songs Jimmy was in from previous albums and Nightmare into one album. So you have like one last compilation of the Revs hard earned work
Comment by Tanzima November 29, 2010 @ 10:30 pmA live DVD with the stage production from Uproar would be amazing. There are so many people I know who’ve never been to an A7X show who would love it!
Comment by Dave November 29, 2010 @ 11:32 pmAnd how am I going to now what the news are about? T.T ‘Cause I live in Barcelona and the Kerrang edition is waaaaaaay diferent. R’u posting the news when they come out DBN?
Comment by Nickie November 30, 2010 @ 4:13 amOh, great, it`s Revolver. We don`t even have Revolver in Spain.
Comment by Nickie November 30, 2010 @ 4:28 amDBN will post it once the countries that do get have all got it. I believe.
Comment by Marly November 30, 2010 @ 5:34 amHow bout a new dvd like all excess with a whole loota never bfor seen video footage of jimmy in it
Comment by sidewinder November 30, 2010 @ 10:58 amI would expect them to be adding more dates to the Nightmare After X-mas Tour or announcing a new tour all together. We can only hope. :)
Comment by Demian November 30, 2010 @ 1:21 pmI can’t wait!!! :)
Comment by Rachael November 30, 2010 @ 2:47 pmMaybe they’ll finally release Unwind the Chainsaw…… Bahahahaha
Comment by Sarah November 30, 2010 @ 4:10 pmNot a real song. Just saying.
Comment by Mike November 30, 2010 @ 4:31 pmI bet there gonna have mike join and form a new band . It makes the most sense
Comment by eh7x November 30, 2010 @ 10:51 pmI hope Mike joins ‘A7X’ but it won’t be the same. When you thing Avenged you think Matt, Syn, Zacky, Johnny and Jimmy. I want him to join and I’m so grateful to what he has done for the band but it’s not the same. Avenged is those 5 guys not minus Jimmy and plus Mike. I know it might sound wrong an that but thats just how I feel. I love Mike and I want him to stay with the guys just not Avenged Sevenfold
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